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Annular breakout

An annular breakout is when the via is not fully surrounded by the pad, ie. the via is drilled off-center. This can create problems with the connections of the vias to the layers. Mostly, the annular breakout is not acceptable.

Annular Ring

The annular ring is a round copper area surrounding a drilled hole. The ring allows an electrical connection from a connecting trace through the hole to other connecting traces either on an inner layer or the other outside layer. The minimum annular ring value is driven by the IPC class.

AOI

Automated Optical Inspection. AOI is used to inspect the inner layers of a multi-layer PCB prior to laminating the layers together.  The optics along with the board data are used to find possible shorts or opens in the copper features that will prevent problems once the inner layers are laminated together. AOI systems are able to check as well the width of tracks and spaces.

Array

An array combines a single PCB multiple times to make a larger array of connected boards.  This process is referred to as “stepping out” the individual boards and also often referred to as “step and repeat.”  Other terms used to describe an array include: panelized, stepped out, palletized and rout and retain.  An array is used to make the assembly process faster. Normally panelized PCB are define by the EMS but can also be define by the PCB Factory.

Array X Dimension

This is the dimension of an array of PCBs across the x-Axis (left to right).  

Array Y Dimension

This is the dimension of an array of PCBs across the y-Axis (up and down).  

Artwork

 In PCB manufacturing the artwork is the electronic data (see CAM Data) that is used to produce the artwork master.   

Aspect Ratio

The aspect ratio is the thickness of the board versus the drilled diameter of the via. The ratio of the size of micro vias to dielectric thickness. This is important to make sure vias can be plated properly. 

B
B-Stage Resin

Also called Prepreg. The condition of the fiberglass material used on multi-layer PCBs that is placed between the core layers of the board.  It is still pliable and soft until it is heated and pressed in a lamination press.  The heat causes the material to “flow” and then it will harden as it cools. 

Ball grid array

A ball grid array is a type of surface mounting packaging used for integrated circuits. It has a grid of solder balls to conduct electrical signals and attach packages with many pins to the surface of a PCB. The solder balls melt, cool, and harden at the same rate so the connections are consistent. Some downsides of this process are that the melted solder balls are not flexible and can strain the connections. 

Bare Board

A completed printed circuit board prior to any components being placed on it. 

Barrel

A drilled hole can be either plated or unplated. The walls of a plated hole are called the hole barrel. This creates a connection between the top of the board, the inner layers (if present) and the bottom of the board. 

Bed of Nails

A Bed of Nails is used as part of an Electrical Test for a PCB. A frame is made that will hold test pins that match up with the connection points on the circuit board. An electrical charge is applied to check for opens and shorts to provide a pass or fail for the board. This method is used very often; Flying Probe is the typical test method for very small quantities. 

Beveled Edge

A beveled edge is typically used to make the leading edge of a circuit board more pointed so that it can be inserted into a connecting device. The standard is a 30 degrees bevel. An example would be a sister card that is inserted into a slot in a computer.  

Black Pad

The black pad is a typical defect due to the ENIG process. An intermetallic layer with Nickel cannot be created during the assembly process because of Nickel oxidation.

Blind Vias

Blind Vias are used in multi-layer boards where a drilled hole needs a connection from an outer layer to an inner layer where the hole must stop before the next layer.  It is a non-through hole

Board Thickness

This usually refers to the final thickness of the printed circuit board. This would include the fiberglass, solder mask and silkscreen and board finish. The most commonly used thickness is 0.062″ but many options are available.

Body Gold

Body Gold indicates that the full body of the board is plated gold. This may occur during either electroplating or immersion depending on the design.  

BOM

Bill Of Material. List of all components on the PCBA, Printed circuit Board Assembly (PCB included).

Border Area

Printed circuit boards are manufactured on a larger panel and then individually routed out. That production panel has a border area in order to allow for tooling holes and room for mounting equipment during the manufacturing process. Typically that border area is 1/2 inch on all sides. 

Bow

Bow references the flatness of a printed circuit board. In the case of a bow, all four corners of the board would be able to touch a flat surface equally but the middle area of the board would not be touching. 

Buried Vias

Buried Vias are used in multi-layer boards where inner layers need a connection, but the drilled hole is on the inner layers only and does not extend to the outer layers.  

Burr

When drilling a PCB there is often a ridge or piece of material that is left connected to the drilled hole. The burr will need to be removed to not cause any problems in the rest of the manufacturing process. Generally, Burrs are taken out by the mechanical process.

C
C-Stage Resin

This is the final hardened stage of the resin used during the lamination process of the multi-layer PCB. 

CAD

Computer-Aided Design. CAD refers to the software used by a PCB designer to create the files and needed data that is used to manufacture and assemble the circuit board and components. 

CAF

Conductive Anodic Filament. CAF means that there will be an electrochemical copper migration along the fiber glasses, which may result in an internal short circuit in the material after several hours using..

CAM

Computer Aided Manufacturing. CAM refers to the software used by PCB manufacturers to prepare customers’ engineering files for the final manufacturing process. 

CAM Files

These are the files that provide the needed information for the manufacturing of the printed circuit board. 

Capacitance

CapacitanceThe ability to store energy in an electrostatic field. In relation to the impedance of a circuit board, it is the relationship between dielectrics and the location and size of conductors.  

Castellated Holes

When a hole is drilled at the edge of the board and plated, leaving an open half circle at the edge of the board. This is often used in a board design for a circuit that will be used to test microchips. Can be named semi-plated holes 

Check Plots

Check Plots are typically PDF files that depict the Gerber files once they have been through the CAM process. The plots can be reviewed by the customer to make sure that the data is correct and ready for manufacturing. 

Clad

Clad references the material used in manufacturing PCBs. Fiberglass material is “clad” with copper and is used as the starting place for manufacturing of the PCB. 

Class 3

For commercial PCBs, this is the highest standard for manufacturing for high-reliability circuits that would be used in flight controls or for some type of life support function. Level of severity related to the IPC

Clearances

A clearance (also called isolation) is space used to create a separation from a power or ground layer near a plated hole on an inner layer. A clearance will prevent a short from the plated hole to either the power or ground plane.  

CNC

Computer Numerical Control. Refers to the computer control that is used with modern-day machinery. It is most often used in the PCB manufacturing process with CNC Drilling Machines as well as Routing machines that cut the individual boards away from the production panels.

Component Hole

A plated hole on the circuit board that is intended to have a component pin placed in it. This could include the component pin, terminations, or wires. It is good to designate if a hole is a component hole or not because the size of a component hole is more critical than a hole that will not have a component placed in it. 

Component Side

This is typically the top side of the circuit board. Most often is labeled in the data files as a component side, layer 1, or top side. It is important when submitting your files that the component side of the board is clearly labeled to ensure the CAM and manufacturing process is done correctly.

Conductive Pattern

This is the pattern of the copper on the final circuit board. This would include the traces, pads, etc. that make up the circuit on the board.  

Conductor Spacing

The space between the copper traces on a PCB. Spacing may vary greatly on any individual board. Typical minimum spacing would be 0.007″ but could go down to extremes of 0.002″.

Conductor Thickness

The thickness of the copper traces on a PCB. The most common thickness would be 1oz or 1/2 oz. 1oz refers to the amount of copper that would cover one square foot area.

Conformal Coating

A coating that is added over the printed circuit board and the installed components on the circuit board in order to provide protection to the circuitry. The protection could be against weather, water, dirt, etc.  

Continuity Refers

To the uninterrupted flow of the electrical current in a circuit. Most often referred to as a part of the electrical test of a circuit.  

Controlled Dielectric

Adjusting the thickness of the circuit board materials (fiberglass) in order to create a specific electrical effect. Most often used in multi-layer boards in order to obtain the desired impedance.  

Controlled Impedance

Electrical impedance is the measure of the opposition (resistance) that a circuit presents to the passage of a current when a voltage is applied in an alternating current circuit. Controlled Impedance is the process of manufacturing a PCB to meet a specific impedance requirement.

Copper Weight

Copper Weight (also called Finished Copper Weight) is the total thickness of copper on the surface of a PCB. There are several processes that affect the final copper thickness. It is measured in oz/sq ft. For example 1 oz = a thickness of 0.0012″. 

Core Thickness

A multi-layer circuit board is made up of a core, prepreg, and copper foil. The core is fiberglass material that has a copper clad to it and will vary in thickness depending on the number of layers and the final PCB thickness required. The core is the name of the thin laminate used for the inner layers.

Counterbore

A counterbore is a cylindrical flat-bottom hole that enlarges another drilled hole. It is typically used when a fastener, such as a socket head cap screw, is required to sit flush with the surface of the PCB.  

Countersink

A countersink is a conical hole added to a drilled hole to allow the head of a countersunk screw to sit flush with the surface of the PCB.  

Crosshatching

A reference to a technique used in drawing to fill an area with volume or shading. Used in some cases with larger copper areas on the PCB. Leaves the copper with voided spaces instead of being a solid area of copper.  

CTE

Coefficient of Thermal Expansion. A measurement of the amount of the PCB material will change per degree of temperature. This is a key factor when determining which material is the best to use for a given circuit design. Material manufacturers will provide these details in their material specifications sheet.  

CTI

Comparative Tracking Index. Is used to measure the electrical breakdown properties of the insulating material used in PCBs. It is primarily used to assess electrical safety, especially for human users of electrical devices. Material manufacturers will provide these details in their material specifications sheet.  

Curing

The process of polymerizing (chemically hardening) the epoxy-based solder mask and/or silkscreen using a set temperature for a specified amount of time. This ensures the mask and silk will adhere to the rest of the material. Once the mask and silk are cured on the base material, they cannot be removed. 

D
Date Code

The Date Code is added to the copper or silkscreen of the PCB during the manufacturing process. The date code shows the week and year that PCB was made.

Datum

A Datum is used in PCB design files to mark the point of the axis or plane used as the origin of the PCB design.

Delamination

When any copper or laminate materials in a PCB begin to separate after the boards have been manufactured.

Desktop Stencil

A desktop stencil is a laser cut stencil that is used to apply solder past to surface mount component pads on a printed circuit board by hand.

Desmear

The chemical process of removing drilling debris that is left in the holes of a production PCB panel after being drilled.

Dielectric

Refers to the fiberglass material in a PCB. The material is non-conductive and acts as an insulator for the electrical circuit in the PCB. The properties of the dielectric material can have an effect on the electrical circuit.

Double-Sided PCB

A double-sided PCB is the most common of all circuit boards. It has copper on the top and bottom of the board material and includes connections through plated holes (DSPTH or not DSNPTH).

DRC

Design Rule Checking. A DRC is performed with CAM software to verify the continuity of all conductors and routing within the manufacturer’s design rules.

Drill to copper

The distance from the edge of the drilled hole to the copper feature (pad, pour, trace, etc). There should be enough space between the hole and the copper so that any via that is not exactly centered in the pad will not hit the copper.

E
Electrical test

It’s the process of testing the board for continuity and isolation. Typically the endpoints of all nets are checked for opens and shorts. It does not include functionality testing of the PCB.

Electro Deposition

The process of depositing a conductive material from a plating source using the application of an electrical current. This is used for plating in the hole walls as well as adding plating the copper pattern.

Electroless Deposition

The process of depositing a conductive material from an autocatalytic plating solution without the application of an electrical current. Used to apply a thin amount of copper prior to copper plating to improve the possible connection in the hole walls. Is also used when applying various finishes to the board such as ENIG (Electroless Nickel Immersion Gold).

Electroplating

The electro-deposition of metal coating on a conductive object. The metal may be conductive or non-conductive. The object is placed in an electrolyte and connected to one terminal of a DC voltage source. The metal to be deposited is similarly immersed and connected to the other terminal. This creates a current flow from the metal to the conductive material thus depositing the material. In PCB manufacturing it is used to apply copper to the hole walls and copper conductor pattern.

ELIC

Every Layer Inter Connected. ELIC is a technology where all the layers are added one by one until the multilayer is completed.

ENEPIG

Electroless Nickel Electroless Palladium Immersion Gold. Similar to ENIG but applies palladium over the nickel prior to the application of the gold. This prevents any problems of corrosion between the nickel and gold and makes it a very “universal” surface finish. Can be used for fine-pitched components as well as gold wire bonding.

ENIG

Electroless Nickel Immersion Gold. ENIG is a very thin amount of Gold applied over Nickel. The nickel is plated onto the copper prior to the application of Gold and acts as a barrier to prevent the Gold and the Copper from migrating into one another. The gold will disappear when soldered, as it is absorbed in the process. Excellent for very fine pitched components.

Etch Compensation

Small adjustments are made to normalized Gerber data it compensates for the amount of copper that will be etched from the production panel. This can vary depending on the copper weight and is determined by the CAM operator based on quality controls.

Etchback

Chemically removing the sidewalls of plated through holes in order to expose conductor areas on inner layers or a multi-layer PCB.

Etching

After an image pattern has been applied to a panel of copper-clad fiberglass the unwanted copper is chemically etched away.

Excellon

Drill File The data file that defines the drill hole sizes, X & Y coordinates, and tool numbers for a circuit board. Also called a NC (numerically controlled) drill file. The software used “Excellon” is well known for drilling data.

F
Fabrication Drawing

A drawing that is used to provide additional information for the correct manufacturing of the PCB. It may include the location of holes, sizes and tolerances, board dimensions, material to be used, finish choice, and any other important information not included in the gerber files.

Fiducial Mark

The fiducial is a circle that is a copper pad with the same finish as the rest of the board and provides alignment targets for automated assembly equipment. A fiducial may be on the rails of the array, on individual boards, or next to special components. Typically three fiducials are needed on an array and the ideal size is 0.050”.

First Article

A first article is a test run of a particular manufacturing process. It is useful to verify that all manufacturing parameters are correctly in place. For example when routing PCBs away from a production panel a single board will be routed out first to verify the rout program is correct.

Fixed Frame Stencil

A fixed frame stencil is a laser-cut stencil that is permanently attached to an aluminum frame.

Flash Gold

Flash gold is hard gold with a maximum thickness of 3 micro inches. It is very thin and requires special handling. Synonym of electrolytic gold.

Flying Probe

This is an electrical test method of bare circuit boards. The flying probe machine uses several arms with probes on the end that work together to touch the test points on the circuit board to determine if there are any openings or shorts on the board.

FR-4

Fiberglass material that has a specific standard for flammability. It is the most common material used in the manufacturing of printed circuit boards.

Frameless Stencil

A laser-cut stencil that will be placed inside a universal frame. A frameless stencil will have holes cut out along each edge of the stencil so that it can be attached to a universal frame.

G
Gold Fingers

Gold Fingers are gold-plated connectors on an edge of the PCB. The hard gold plating allows for the PCB to be inserted into a connector without damaging the surface of the connections.

Ground Plane

In PCBs, this is a conductive area of the board, often an entire layer, that is usually connected to the power supply ground of the circuit.

H
Hard Gold

Hard Gold is an electrolytic process and has hardeners in it for durability. It is plated over a nickel finish and may also be referred to as Deep Gold. (The term Deep Gold is used to indicate that full panels are placed in the plating tank prior to the application of the solder mask).

HASL Finish

Hot Air Solder Level is a common finish type for PCBs. The PCB panel with exposed copper is lowered into a liquid bath of solder then quickly raised out of the bath and moved passed jets of hot air that clear off the excess solder leaving only the solder on the exposed copper areas.

Home Base

Apertures Home base apertures are the shape of the aperture used in laser cut stencils that will control solder balling and tomb-stoning of chip components.

I
Imaging

The process of taking the electronic data of the circuit patterns and transferring that data to the photo plotter or image device to apply the image to the film.

Immersion Plating

A plating process that does not use electroplating to transfer various metals to the copper base of a PCB. Most commonly used to apply Gold or Silver in an immersion process.

Immersion Silver

The purpose of this silver plating is to protect the copper from corroding as well as maintaining its solderability. It does have a shorter shelf life than some other finishes and must be shipped with separator sheets to prevent tarnishing. In opposite to electrolytic plating.

Immersion Tin

Commonly referred to as White Tin, Immersion Tin is a chemical process that applies a very thin layer of tin to the copper. The appearance is mostly white, has a shorter shelf life and is good for tight-pitched components.

Impedance

Electrical impedance is the measure of the opposition (resistance) that a circuit presents to the passage of a current when a voltage is applied in an alternating current circuit.

Inspection Guidelines

For printed circuit boards the standard and guidelines that are followed are published by the IPC Association (See IPC). The primary criteria is based on the document titled “IPC-A-600” which provided the necessary guidelines for the acceptability for printed circuit boards for Classes 1 to 3.

L
Laminate

Based material for PCB. Typically in reference to a multi-layer circuit board.

Laminate Thickness

The thickness of the fiberglass material before the solder mask, silkscreen or finishes have been applied to the PCB.

Laminate Void

A space that opens inside the fiberglass material of a PCB that can be seen with a visual inspection.

Lamination

Lamination is a process in which heat and pressure bond two layers together.

Land

The land or pad is the copper area that is designated for the mounting of components to the circuit board.

Laser Photo Plotter

As opposed to a vector plotter, a laser plotter is able to produce very fine lines and dots to create a more accurate photo plot. Nowadays also use to plot directly on the dry film also name LDI, laser Direct Imagine.

Layers

Layers on a board are defined by the different layers of material. This includes copper layers and core substrates. Between each copper foil is a PCB material, or dielectric, to insulate the copper layers from each other.

Lead-Free HASL

Similar in appearance and use as Leaded Solder with Hot Air Solder Level. Contains a mix of 99.3% Tin and 0.6% Copper. It may be referred to as SN100CL. The temp at which it flows is around 227 degrees.

LPI

Liquid Photo Imageable. LPI is an epoxy-based ink that is applied to a PCB for solder mask or silkscreen through photographic imaging techniques. The PCB panel is covered in the ink then the image is exposed and developed. This method allows for a very precise thickness and accuracy for the solder mask application.

M
Measling

A form of delamination just below the surface of the laminate material that is visible and shows as several small circular areas.

Metal Foil or copper foil

The copper foil that is used for the conductive layers of the PCB.

Micro-Sectioning

Part of the quality or inspection process will often require a Micro-Section of the circuit board. A small rectangular area of the board is punched out of the board in order to inspect the quality of the hole walls and plating. It allows for a look at the inner layers of the board to verify the overall process.

Micro Via

A via is an electrical connection provided by a hole drilled between layers on a printed circuit board. Micro vias are defined as any hole equal to or less than 150 microns in size and are made by laser drills. The hole formed connects the layers with copper plating. The hole cannot penetrate more than a couple of layers, so the vias need to be stacked on top of each other or staggered in the board. Micro vias can be buried or blind.

Mounting Hole

This is an unplated hole (meaning it will be non-conductive) that is used to secure the circuit board to its final assembly.

Multilayer PCB

PCB that has more than two layers. A Multilayer PCB can have up to 64 layers.

N
NC Drill

The data file that defines the drill hole sizes, X & Y coordinates, and tool numbers for a circuit board. Also known as Excelon drill file.

Netlist

List of names of symbols or parts and their connection points which are logically connected in each net of a circuit.

Nomenclature

Also name Legend or Silkscreen. This is applied to the circuit board to identify components and other key information on the bare circuit board.

Non-Plated Hole

A Non-Plated hole is a hole that is drilled after the copper plating process so that there is no plating in the hole. Often used as mounting holes.

O
Open

An open circuit is a break in the continuity of any given circuit on the board. This would be identified during the electrical test process which would result in a failed test.

OSP

Organic Surface Protectant. An organic chemical finish is applied to the copper. The shelf life is very short with OSP and the boards should be used very soon after applying the finish.

P
Pad

Small exposed copper areas, usually round, on a board to make a connection between a via and a trace, or a component. Pads can be off to the side of a component or under the component to save space, which is common when size is a concern. Pads can be through-hole pads or surface mount pads.

Panel Plating

Process to electroplate the full panel before etching.

Pattern Plating

The process to electroplate only select portions of a production PCB panel.

PCB materials

The substance between copper layers to insulate the copper layers is called dielectric material. The most common PCB material is FR4, fiberglass impregnated with epoxy resin, but a variety of other substances are used as well. A thicker amount of material will translate to higher cost since more of the material is used for each layer of the board.

Photo Plotter

Machine used to print the patterns on the photo tools used to manufacture a PCB.

Photo tool

Printed by the photo plotter to be used for making the copper pattern. Also used for making patterns for solder mask and silkscreen.

Photoresist

Light-sensitive material that is applied to the production PCB panel and then used to expose the pattern from the photo plot and developed.

Plasma Etching

Process used to remove copper from a PCB panel for special RF materials that cannot be processed with standard etching procedures.

Plated Hole

Drilled hole on a PCB panel that has completed a plating process to allow a copper connection with pads connected to the hole.

Prepreg

The condition of the fiberglass material used on multi-layer PCBs that is placed between the core layers of the board. It is still pliable and soft until it is heated and pressed in a lamination press. The heat causes the material to “flow” and then it will harden as it cools.

Press-out Thickness

Predetermined thickness a board needs to be after lamination.

R
Reference Designator

The reference designator is generated from the Gerber data to provide additional data when loading components on the printed circuit board. It defines the component and its placement on the board.

Rework Stencil

A laser cut stencil is used when a single component needs to be reworked when the rest of the components are already soldered to the printed circuit board.

Routing

Rout is the process of using a programmed rout machine to cut a PCB out of the manufacturing panel.

S
Schematic

A schematic is created as the first step of a PCB design. It includes graphic symbols of the electrical connections and functions of the circuit board.

Selective Gold

Selective Gold indicates that a specific area in the interior of the board would be plated. This does not include gold fingers.

Short

Refers to a short circuit in the circuit board. A short could have been accidentally created in the design of the board or is a result of an error in the manufacturing process. An electrical test can be used to identify the short to prevent it from passing the final inspection.

Single Layer PCB

PCB with copper features on only one side of the material of the board.

SMT Laser Cut Stencil

Used to apply solder paste to a printed circuit board to aid in the soldering of surface mount components. The stencil is usually stainless steel and can be used many times in the electronics assembly process.

Soft Gold

Soft gold is commonly referred to as “wire bondable gold”. It is softer than other gold finishes which allows it to be bonded more easily for stronger and more conductive connections. The gold does not disappear at the point of soldering or wire bond which produces a stronger welded joint.

Solder Mask / solder resist

Final layers are normally photo imageable and green color able to protect the copper from oxidation and allowed to make soldering without short on the component solder face.

Solder Paste

Also called Solder Cream, is used to solder a surface mount component leading to a corresponding land (pad) on a printed circuit board.

Solder Side

The solder side is the bottom side of the PCB.

Stencil Fiducials

Stencil Fiducials are alignment marks. If your screen printer is equipped with a vision system, fiducials are half cut in the stencil to allow for the printer to automatically align the board with the stencil. If you are manually aligning the stencil with the board, you could either full cut the fiducials or just use the surface mount pads.

Step-and-Repeat

The process of “stepping out” the individual boards in an array. Other terms used to describe an array are: panelized, stepped out, palletized, and rout and retain.

Surface finishes

Layer of coating between the components and the bare PCB. The finish protects the board and any exposed copper from the outside environment.

T
Through-hole pads

Through-hole pads are meant for the pins of components to go through them and to be soldered on the underside of the component. Surface mount pads are meant for components to be soldered on the same side of the board.

Tolerances

There are a variety of tolerances in the printed circuit board manufacturing process. They are most often identified in a customer’s design files as + (plus) or – (minus) amounts depending on the area and process of the board. For example, the overall thickness of a circuit board is typically going to be +/- 10% of the overall thickness. In this case, a board requirement of .062” would still be within tolerance if the thickness was .068″.

Tooling Hole

Tooling holes are commonly used in four corners of the rails of a PCB array. They are used to aid in alignment and orientation when assembling the board. The typical size is .125” and they are non-plated.

Trace

The path of copper (in some cases, other metals) that connects parts of the board together and allows electricity to flow between components and features of the board.

Twist

Twist references the flatness of a printed circuit board where not all four corners of the board are able to touch at the same time on a flat plane.

U
Universal Frame Stencil

A universal frame provides a solid frame to connect a frameless stencil.

V
V-Score

Small grove that is cut into an array of PCBs so that after components are added they can easily be separated.

W
Wire Bondable

Gold Wire bondable gold is also called soft gold. It is softer than other gold finishes which allows it to be bonded more easily for stronger and more conductive and stronger connections. It is 99.99% pure – 24-carat gold with a typical thickness of 30 to 50 micro inches of gold.

X
X-Axis

The x-Axis is the horizontal (left and right) axis of a two-dimensional plot.  

X-Outs

A rejected PCB included in an array of several PCB. 1 X out means only 1 defective PCB is acceptable, 2 X- outs means 2 PCB whatever the location in the array

Y
Y Axis

The Y-Axis is the vertical (up and down) axis of a two-dimensional plot.

Z
Z-Axis

Where the XY-plane is horizontal then Z-axis would point up from the point where x and y meet.